Taking the plunge

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Taking the plunge

Post by Sawmill » Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:17 am

Hello all! I've been reading the forum for a while as a guest and thought it was time to join and say hello! I want to start racing! (said outloud it brings to mind someone saying "hey ya'll, watch this!" ..you know somthing bad is gonna happen but it'll probably be fun to watch)



Specifically, I want to run the 1/2 mile at Toledo. I've been thinking about it since I was..oh..maybe 5 (44 now) and after getting a gift from my girls to drive a late model there this summer i want more. To run the big track i'll need a sportsman, but it seems a Toledo sportsman is an animal that only runs at Toledo unless i want to be a slow late model somewhere else.

Any and all ideas, thoughts, etc are welcome, except for telling me it's a stupid idea. (with a wife and 3 daughters I've heard that so many times over the years I'm imune..lol)



I'm looking for somthing to run and not be a total roadblock..i have no illusions of greatness and may even find that while turning laps is great, doing it while getting shoved and rubbed is not..I don't really know. ( but I want to find out!)



Thanks

Todd


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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by BYRDRACERS » Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:06 pm

Go run Flat Rock Street Stocks.



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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by JayTMotorsports17 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:57 pm

If you want to run Toledo. Kevin Stahl Jr. has a car that is both Flat Rock street stock and Toledo Sportsman legal. He's a fine fabircator and ran pretty well in the car as a Rookie at Toledo. But i agree with the previous post try running the small track at toledo or Flat Rock first to get a feel for it.



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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by Sawmill » Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:01 pm

flatrock might be an idea..but running with the savages in the pit at Toledo looks like an invitation to learning fab work fast! Plus..always wanted to run the big track


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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by Dan Doyle sr. » Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:47 pm

A front running Flat Rock A main street stock could run 9-15 at toledoe most nights. If the front runners pile up and you miss it could run top 5. Take it from someone who started driving at the rock this year after crewing for the last 30 its a hell of a lot easier to drive from the fence than it is to drive behind the wheel! Anything I can do to help get a hold of me. I can stear you in the right direction for help with parts, cars, Engines or what ever you need. Best advice I can give you is try and buy a front running complete car. Its the nickel and dime stuff that will run you broke. Sponsors, unless you are independantly wealthy you gotta have them!



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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by enduro06 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:27 pm

instead of jumping right in and drowning i went and built an enduro car for the rock couple seasons ago..granted its not high flying but u still get the sense on what line to run where your throttle points are..its a blast, granted i have a motor to rebuild now but im glad i started with an enduro car, id rather mess that up learning then going out every week and have to repair a wrecked sportsman or even ss.



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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by JayTMotorsports17 » Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:24 am

I agree it gets expensive very fast. Last time i wrecked my street stock it cost me $1800 just between the rack, nose piece and front end components and that was a light crash due to cars piling up and being idiots. You get in a wreck at Toledo and your talking a new chassis. The wall hurts everywhere but when your going that fast it destroys.



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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by Rocky » Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:32 pm

What everybody is telling you is what makes sense I'm gonna tell you something different. If you want to run Sportsman or for that matter Outlaw Super on the 1/2 mile at Toledo, go ahead and do it. It's your money and you only live once. After years of working on street stocks and trying to race them when I was young and broke, I joined the Navy then after a few years over seas I came home well to Maryland where I was stationed at the time and started running 4 cylinder cars on dirt it was a lot of fun and cheap. Fast forward to me getting to be 34 years old and I decided to get a dirt Late Model, why??? Cause I'm not gonna race forever and I don't care if I never win, all the guys that win have backing and big families helping them, me well it's me and whatever kids from work that want to come over and drink beer in my garage. I've only race that car 2 times in the last 2 years but just the rush you get pulling out to start the Late Model feature is well beyond words. Especially if it's what you wanted to do all your life. No amount of racing in other series can make up for what you dreamed of. If you wanna jump off the deep end, and you might hate yourself at times for it but to achieve a dream.... You can't top it.


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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by Sawmill » Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:29 pm

Rocky hit the feeling on the head...i don't care if i'm anywhere near the front as long as i'm there. Everyone else is right about costs, and I think it might have to get pushed back until i can do it half-way right. (maybe i can just show up at open practices and run just to do it, then mutter loudly "its still not right, lets take it home and work on it somemore!")

I'll admit i had no idea the real costs involved even if everything went right and all you needed to do was put new tires on it and go over it every week...anyone have a real-world cost on running at Toledo? Tires only good for one night? On the plus side I won't be very fast, but the chassis could be so bad i'm using tires up running 80% speed. Fuel? Pit passes and entry fees? (stupid reality) I do think if I ever want to do it I should do it, spending 1/2 the money I have on a street stock or such I'd end up going through money almost as fast and not be where I want to be. i'd have to be a lot better salesman than I am to talk myself into a ride! ( well no, I've never dome it, but I'm sure I'd be great for your team!..lol)

A car that could run flatrock SS and toledo sportsman would be great, but I don't think 2 nights a week is feasible with the family right now (heck, I KNOW its not) Of course, one really good wreck on the half-mile and that would be it. (at least I wouldn't have to take the plates off of it as i walked away!) Still looking and planning, but the best plan seems to be make alot more money to put aside to do this at whatever level.


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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by Rocky » Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:53 pm

Todd, by the way welcome to the club.



I can't really comment on how much money it costs just to get the car out of the trailer at Toledo, cause I've never done it.



But I CAN tell ya that you can spend your whole life talkin' yourself out of your dreams. Be careful not to do that, our classified section on here is full of great deals and these guys can and will help you out. As far as to do things halfway right, that kind of depends on how mechanically inclined you are. Of course the more you buy put together say an entire car with a body on it already less Motor and trans is gonna cost a mess less all together but more up front than if you piecemeal it. BUT REMEMBER and Arnold is gonna come on here and say the same thing, look at 20 cars and buy the car at the race track and take it home after the race. if you don't, the previous owner will take all their shocks and springs out of it and put stuff that was just sitting around their shop into it. My Dad always says if you have the money , buy the fastest car at the racetrack.... Both are sound pieces of advice I'd say. Not that I listen always.


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